One thing that we want to do is make a kind of this thing I've called the meaning economy pilot. I've explained this to you these servants first before Yeah. So this I don't know anything. So this will be like a city by city startup. Kind of like sports club or Uber or one of these delivery app delivery or whatever. Where it launches in a city. And you if you live in that city, then you can sign up and you pay something like 50 euros a month and you get meaningful experiences. You go to any take events and like a relational like a meeting, potluck can take event where you get you're like why don't you get people that you don't like what if people sign up but I don't like yeah, and then they ruin kind of the meaningful experience because they're just because great, big part of these events is the people right? Yeah, sure. So the way it's gonna work is that there's going to be if you want to join, you have to go to an initial event. And at the initial event, you're going to have to make a kind of a values profile about your sources of meaning, together with like a facilitator or whatever. I guess people will pay for this. I'm not sure how it'll work. And then there might be an additional qualification process at the beginning. I think there will be I think the very beginning will only accept couples. I don't think they can still be in this system, I think. So you can also ask these questions later. No, that's fine. So that'll be intake event, and then we're going to not make events for everybody in the city. We're going to make events based on the sources of meaning. Right, so users, yeah, so if there's three couples that share a source of meaning, and just those six people got it. Right. So that's the mean economy things. So you need a person's around that. Yeah.

Hire So I'm looking for somebody who started a startup like one of my delivery will or whatever. Who can think about this kind of ops playbook. city by city having launched this there's this guy that worked in the works on one that worked at couchsurfing here in Berlin. Western, so same question, Edwards. Yeah, he was after me. genome, you know, but he's from Mexico, right? Cool. Maybe I might be a different person. So we're looking for somebody for that position.

That is actually going to be part of this other thing, which is kind of always project exit to void. So exit the Void is going to be a movement that you can be a member of like the way that people are a member of the I don't know, Communist Party or ACLU or something where you pay like a yearly fee to keep up your membership. Right? I know you remember if anything like that, that I remember a Friday cool. What's your friend about? It's about whale research. Well, research. Cool. And how much is the fee that you spent two years a year? Yeah. So it was also a little, it was, like 15 years or six years. Cool. So yeah, so it's gonna be like that. But it's got a political movement about pushing for a society where everyone can live meaningful lives, and a kind of community structure where they send you things to help you live a meaningful life and also to help you kind of help your friends. Like, like so there's going to be a I think there's a few different tiers of membership. So like the cheapest one is like 20 euros a year, but there's one that's like 15 or 10 euros a month. And this one, they send you things in the mail that are like are like little missions like, hey, find out one of your friends sources of meaning and do something special for them. Like will help and there's going to be like maybe a hotline, and like other kind of like low cost ways of helping people make their lives more meaningful. And kind of discord and like a yearly conference and stuff like that. And if you pay for the highest tier, then you're also in this thing. Right? The media economy thing, right. She's calling that a movement and community as a service. Because I guess you see why it's called a movement I haven't really got a problem with the idea of community as a service. I mean, when you explain it sounds good. I see what you mean. It sounds very startup fee and very kind of financial. I'm that's why I ask you like how do you curate people who join? I think that's important because you cannot force community people to join a community shared values with That's right. And what do you have underneath? Right? Yeah. Yeah, that's good point. And I think there are a lot of open questions about how that'll work.

So Ellie wants that to be her job, but she's gonna be the creator. Drop creative. Director of IT, sending people emissions, branding, all this kind of stuff. But she wants somebody else to be the CEO, or the executive director of the whole project. And also, she wants to have kind of movement builder people like maybe some of the people from extinction rebellion, or from Effective Altruism. Like, working for that spreading this thing because they are good at making themselves be heard. Yeah, network already. Yeah. And like, there's a lot of people that from like the Green Party or extinction rebellion that are kind of they realized that this is not actually the way they want to change the world anymore, and it's not working. And I think this meaning are kind of, in a way, we're this the end goal. This is something kind of like the Green Party, except it's like the meaning party. So try to find people who've already kind of helped spread these other things. Who can spread this because obviously the main party like the Green Party has a lot of members and he doesn't have a lot of members yet. So ideally, would be the same people that made the Green Party have a lot of members now make the moving party have a lot of members. Yeah, sounds good. It will be a little bit cautious. Just I'm not sure how to explain it. Once you feel it's it's not very rational. It's just have something to think about when things get very big. It's easier to pick up that the container will be very different from the original thing. Like being interpreted differently, and they promoted differently and you have a degradation of the term I think that's less likely to occur in a group which is really obsessed with values versus containers. We'll find out okay, there's two more things to explain, but I think they're quick.

So this thing with the missions and stuff like that, and this thing with the meaning economy thing.

They have a kind of tech platform, which is meaning supplies, which is kind of like a Wikipedia for this kind of stuff. I guess we could PDAs it's your site is more like interactive videos and enciclopedia about everything. I think yours is more like Well, one of the things it is just a database of values. And practices. And those practices will be some of the things that you're getting, you're sending out to your movement members, right, like, oh, try to do this with your friends. So help them Yeah, but meaning supplies. It's also like both ways you can send information. You can meet people, right you could in principle, make lists to share with people. And probably the future. You could also enable this for planning events. as well. It doesn't feel right. It's more like a social network. Yeah, somewhere in between your social network. But it is I do intend to focus most of the development effort on public has the Wikipedia aspect of being quite kind of kind of a public database collaborative, like anyone can app games. So somehow, those that maybe we're not sure what will be for profit and won't be nonprofit, but maybe this is a nonprofit that's somehow supported by these other things.

And then the last thing is some kind of academic group that does. Meaning align meaning related AI and economics kind of stuff. That's definitely a nonprofit. That's definitely nonprofit. Yeah, so you can get grants for research. And that's kind of relatively small, but we do want a kind of a research director could even be someone who has a position at university but also kind of does this gets paid a little bit, or I don't know, I don't know how that'll work. But we want maybe these two years ago, you're a fan of Glen. Glen. Yeah, maybe. So these are hired. Those are a key hires. And I guess that's the whole project. What do you think? Yes, cool.